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The state took our daughter! Please help us get her back.

This is our Desperate Cry for your help. PLEASE READ! for our London….

We can be reached at flygirl_1975@msn.com or www.myspace.com/londoncalling411

Hello Everyone,

We havent seen most of you in awhile.  We have been dealing with traumatic family circumstances and we want to tell all of you whats been happening, then we want to ask for your help.  We took our daughter, London to childrens hospital on Nov.18th. (they denied her treatment) we went back on Nov.19 through Denver health whom said they couldnt believe that childrens missed it. 

She was inpatient but they tried to release her on thanksgiving, I told them I felt she wasnt ready and so did our little London.  She had an episode the night before and needless to say they ended up keeping her till Dec.5th, of which she began daytreatment which we took her to daily for 5 days before they readmitted her as impatient. 

Our little 7 year old is a diagnosed bipolar.  Some of you met her at the gothnic last year.  She is suicidal and sad at times.  We want our little girl to be happy again which is why we sought treatment for her.  since her second hospital admission, this is what we have gone through.they temporarilary took custody of her for 5 days.  Then the magistrate deemed that we had not shown neglect. their basis for neglect was that i was argumentative for her treatment (so they concluded i was crazy) and Dave was disengaged and quiet (so he must be crazy)  this is what childrens hospital told dhs. 

 The basis for me being argumentative, but non the less coorperative was:

1. I was adamently requesting a brainscan done on my child studies have indicated that adhd can be ruled out as a diagnosis and there are also studies for bipolar.

2. I was requesting a red dye 40 alergy test be done on her (studies have shown that red dye can cause agression in children with mood disorders

3. I was requesting that red dye to be taken out of her diet as a holistic trial before administering drugs. 

4. we were not coorperative with their suggestion to place London with our family.  They thought this was a good place for her since at the time we were staying at the samaritan house ( a communtiy resource for homeless familys)  we won custody back as soon as we saw the judge, but then when the judge and our attorney was out of town for the holidays they went and filed for custody again and got it until our trial in February.

Colorado law protects homeless familys from loosing their children. and since then we have gotten a nice 3 bd room home.  The hospital cut our visits from twice a day to once a day.  their basis on this was because we were playing monkey with our daughter, and in a family session we had to draw a picture of a boat.  our daughter thought it would be funny to draw flying poop off the boat.  (keep in mind she is only 7) 

Dave drew a toilet for the poop and they think that he was instigating this bad behavior. (other professionals at childrens hospital disagree with this decision because they know that parents have to come down to their childs level and there is nothing wrong with this.  Our child left childrens a week ago and was placed with my sister.  we have not been able to even talk to her in a week.  My sister has reported that I am a former satanist and wiccan and any of you that know me know that i am and have always been a christian studying to be one of Jehovahs witnesses. 

My mother brought up a concern about Dave always wearing black and we were told by someone that always wearing black does not help our case.  Daves mom made accusations about me wanting to kill my mother.  Our family has ruined us and torn apart our family based on religious hatred and hatred of a scene of which they know nothing about. (Im talking to all my gothic friends and accuaintances right now, Please repost this.) 

 Although we are not satanic / wiccan we recognize the right to be whatever religion you want in this country and we are tollerant people and have friends of all religions.  Our attorney advised us today that dhs (department of human servises, formerly known as social services, SS)  is sabotaging all our efforts and will continue to do so since we do not fit into their mold.  (last I checked Sharon and Ozzy didnt fit that mold either and they still have their kids)  I am asking from all of you for your help. 

Those that are of a different religion that know what I have always represented I am asking for your testimony in court.  Those in the scene and out of the scene I am asking for your participation in a peaceful protest on the day of our trial.  The trial is on Feb. 25th at 10am. at the city and county building. The protest will begin at 8am. 

We are just at the beginning stages of organizing this protest and would just like a response right now from people that can be committed to be there in the courtroom with us as we fight for our little girl.  Our pretrial hearing is Jan 26th at 1:30 div 5.  They have taken our daughter on allegations .  oh fyi, the meds they have my kid on are not fda regulated for children under 12 and are only used for adhd kids and kids with touretts .  she is not diagnosed with either. 

I am forced to comply with the druging of my kid and when I do get her back this is not a drug that i can abruptly take her off of cause she could die, I have to wean her off of them under a doctors care.  Please respond and let me know if you can be there.  It is our hope to fill this courtroom with people outraged by the power the state has to take someones most beloved gift when there has never been any form of abuse or neglect.  PLEASE , PLEASE HELP US.  We can be reached on here for now and I will post our phone number later.  We love you all,

David and Lori

Your Constitutional Rights and your Childs Bill of Rights Violated!

DHS stole our daughter and these are the laws and rights they violated in doing so:

Our first constitutional right is Freedom of Religion and Speech.  The hospital that made the innitial call to social services ignored our request for our daughter not to be brought into the holiday festivities.  They did as they pleased and celebrated with her anyways even though the patient advocate made express concerns on our behalf for them not to do this.

4.  Our fourth ammendment right is to protect us from unreasonable search and seisure of persons (children) or property with out a warrent.  

They took London without reason and (the revised statutes states.)sec (15) Oct 1, 1983, Reasonable efforts  will be made (a) prior to the placement of a child in foster care, to prevent or eliminate the need for removal of the child from his home and (b) to make it possible for the child to return to his home.  Reasonable Efforts Mandates-  a safeguard to
parents and children that famlies not be traumatized due to needless seperation from each other.

* In the event of an emergency removal of a child from his home a “safeguard”  to parents and children that due process will be guaranteed by informed, unbiased judiciaries who are to mandate accountablilty for “reasonable efforts”  that child protection agencies be mandated. 

* We have been warned by our attorney that the judge over our case always for 20 years sides with cps.  I would hardly call this an unbiased judiciary.

A.  They are supposed to prove compliance with “reasonable efforts” and not mearly accept a pre printed form submitted cps for a “rubber-stamped” approval by the court, thereby denying the parent and child of due process rights to present evidence to the contrary. 

*our London was taken with a pre-printed form and a rubber stamped approval.  This has traumatized all of us greatly.  When we brought our evidence of the rental property to court the judge said it wasnt his case and since the other judge was out of town for the holiday he didnt want to step in and rule on another judges case.

*note- the family courts almost always without fail accept a preprinted “reasonable efforts” form from a caseworker without question.

5. our fifth ammendment right is being violated.  The fifth ammendment states that we are not to be compelled to be a witness against ourselves. 

* They are demanding psych evaluations from both David and I to try to use against us. This is using ourselves as a witness against us in their defense.

6.  The sixth ammendment states that we havfe the rightto know the evidence against you and confront our accuser.
 
sidenote_ on March 8th 2004 the us supreme court rules 9-0 to uphold the 6th ammendment against hearsay. (crawford vs. washington)

 *We have been told by the Gal and the caseworker that in child cases they do not have to disclose what they have against us until the date of the trial because its considered part of their investigation not part of discovery. 

7.  The seventh ammendment is the right to a jury tril if the value of contraversary exceeds $20. the right shall be preserved * we were ill advised by our first attorney to waive this right because his wife worked for cps for 20 years and we feel he was playing both sides of the fence.  Our new attorney got him to admit that this was a lost case because of whom the judge is and our new attorney said if we would have had a jury we would have won the case. now he says its a lost cause.  Since our daughter is worth immesurably more than a measly $20 dollars we feel our right should be preserved.

8. the 8th ammendment is the protection from cruel and unusual punishment.

*kidnapping our daughter and a malicious investigation is cruel.  the statutes mandate:  42 usc 671 (A) (15) and 672 (A) (1) kidnapping according to 18 usc sec.1203 are being held. “In order to compel a 3rd person… to do or abstain form doing any act as an explicit or implicit condition for the release of the person detained, or attemps or comspires to do so.”

* we strongly challenge that an emergency exhisted to remove our child. And request to either return the child to our custody file a formal complaint against us.

*my child has been wrongfully and unlawfully removed from my physical custody withuot constitutional due process, or even the pretext of reasonable efforts having been offered as mandated from the above mentioned statutes.

14.  The fourteenth ammendment is “against any state abridging your privileges or immunities or depriving you of liberty or property with out due process of law

* note-  child abuse and neglect cases are civil not criminal which is why there is no “due process”

Defination of child abuse and neglect “any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent which results in death, serious physical or emothional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation; or an act or failure to act which present an imminent risk of serious harm.

* We took our daughter to childrens hospital because we saw a pattern of depression and mental illness, i hardly think they have any evidence that we failed to act when it comes to her well-being.

Defination of Neglect.  “failure to provide basic needs; physical- failure to provide food, shelter and supervision

* Although we have been homeless our daughter was always provided food and shelter and supervision medical- failure to provide necessary medical or mental health treatment. 

* they forget that we are the ones that brought her in for treatment when childrens hospital denied her first admission because they didnt think anything was wrong with her and then again they released her too soon after London had only 24 hours of “good behavior”  since when does 24 hours in the mental health field with bi-polar disorder indicate that someone is stabelized?

Educational- failure to educate child or attend to special education needs

* London has consecutively and consistantly been in school and has an IEP for her special education needs for her behavioral disorders. Emotional-inatention to childs emotional needs, failure to provide psychological care.

* We have been working with school counselors since pre-k and school therapists and our step in taking her to childrens hospital was to further provide her with the psychological care she needed.

LONDONS BILL OF RIGHTS ARE ALSO BEING VIOLATED ACCORDING TO THE CHILDS BILL OF RIGHTS.  THOSE BEING VIOLATED ARE BELOW:

4. states that every child has the right to express her opinion freely, and adults should address that opinion with the child in every decision that effects her. 

* in the cps report they state that they knew London did not feel threatened by us they identified that we love and care for London.  London told them she wanted to come home with her parents.

5.  states that she has the right to media access and guarantees access to all important communications media so they can communicate with adults.

* London is not being allowed to call us or to recieve calls from us.

6. is her right to participate in decisions that effect her. 

* she has told them she wants to come home.

12. Children have the right to have nurturing and caring parents or guardians.

*no one loves our child the way we do, her parents. No one cares for her more and will fight for her rights more then we will.

15.  Right to life, physical integrity and protection from maltreatment.

* mental abuse from removing her from her parents and medicating her with harmful drugs not fda approved for children under 12 and not approved for her particular mental illness is maltreatment.Childrens hospital had her inside their facility for 2 months , not one single time during her stay here did she get to go outside, furthering her depression.  their reason: “they were remodeling the playground”  even prisoners in colorado get to go outside for an hour a day , but not the psychiatric patients at childrens hospital.  This is maltreatment.

17.  Right to education.
* London was hospitalized for 2 months not going to school the entire time.

18. right to appropriate information and to have reality presented to them in a balanced and accurately representative fashion.
* When they first got custody for 5 days which the magistrate at the time (since then its been changed to a new courtroom) said that she didnt even need to hear from the mom because she felt the state did not represent in any fashion that we had neglected our daughter.  she immediately gave custody back to us, (which they refiled a week later when she was out of town for the holiday.)

They told London during the 5 days we could not call her or visit her that it was because our car broke down.  London then did not trust us and felt we abandoned her over a stupid car.  I told her the truth and that we would never ever stay away from her unless it was for bad people thinking that we were not good parents and wouldnt let us visit her.  The emotional damage this caused her is unknown at this time.

DHS took our daughter! Please help us get her back.

This is our Desperate Cry for your help. PLEASE READ! for our London….We can be reached at flygirl_1975@msn.com or www.myspace.com/londoncalling411

Hello Everyone,

We havent seen most of you in awhile. We have been dealing with traumatic family circumstances and we want to tell all of you whats been happening, then we want to ask for your help. We took our daughter ,London to childrens hospital on Nov.18th. (they denied her treatment) we went back on Nov.19 through denver health whom said they couldnt believe that childrens missed it. She was inpatient but they tried to release her on thanksgiving, I told them I felt she wasnt ready and so did our little London. She had an episode the night before and needless to say they ended up keeping her till Dec.5th, of which she began daytreatment which we took her to daily for 5 days before they readmitted her as impatient. Our little 7 year old is a diagnosed bipolar. Some of you met her at the gothnic last year. She is suicidal and sad at times. We want our little girl to be happy again which is why we sought treatment for her. since her second hospital admission, this is what we have gone through.they temporarilary took custody of her for 5 days. Then the magistrate deemed that we had not shown neglect. their basis for neglect was that i was argumentative for her treatment (so they concluded i was crazy) and Dave was disengaged and quiet (so he must be crazy) this is what childrens hospital told dhs. The basis for me being argumentative, but non the less coorperative was: 1. I was adamently requesting a brainscan done on my child studies have indicated that adhd can be ruled out as a diagnosis and there are also studies for bipolar. 2. I was requesting a red dye 40 alergy test be done on her (studies have shown that red dye can cause agression in children with mood disorders 3. I was requesting that red dye to be taken out of her diet as a holistic trial before administering drugs. 4. we were not coorperative with their suggestion to place London with our family. They thought this was a good place for her since at the time we were staying at the samaritan house ( a communtiy resource for homeless familys) we won custody back as soon as we saw the judge, but then when the judge and our attorney was out of town for the holidays they went and filed for custody again and got it until our trial in February. Colorado law protects homeless familys from loosing their children. and since then we have gotten a nice 3 bd room home. The hospital cut our visits from twice a day to once a day. their basis on this was because we were playing monkey with our daughter, and in a family session we had to draw a picture of a boat. our daughter thought it would be funny to draw flying poop off the boat. (keep in mind she is only 7) Dave drew a toilet for the poop and they think that he was instigating this bad behavior. (other professionals at childrens hospital disagree with this decision because they know that parents have to come down to their childs level and there is nothing wrong with this. Our child left childrens a week ago and was placed with my sister. we have not been able to even talk to her in a week. My sister has reported that I am a former satanist and wiccan and any of you that know me know that i am and have always been a christian studying to be one of Jehovahs witnesses. My mother brought up a concern about Dave always wearing black and we were told by someone that always wearing black does not help our case. Daves mom made false accusations about me wanting to kill my mother. Our family has ruined us and torn apart our family based on religious hatred and hatred of a scene of which they know nothing about. (Im talking to all my gothic friends and accuaintances right now, Please repost this.) Although we are not satanic / wiccan we recognize the right to be whatever religion you want in this country and we are tollerant people and have friends of all religions. Our attorney advised us today that dhs (department of human servises, formerly known as social services, SS) is sabotaging all our efforts and will continue to do so since we do not fit into their mold. (last I checked Sharon and Ozzy didnt fit that mold either and they still have their kids) I am asking from all of you for your help. Those that are of a different religion that know what I have always represented I am asking for your testimony in court. Those in the scene and out of the scene I am asking for your participation in a peaceful protest on the day of our trial. The trial is on March 11th at 10am. at the city and county building. The protest will begin at 8am. We are just at the beginning stages of organizing this protest and would just like a response right now from people that can be committed to be there in the courtroom with us as we fight for our little girl. Our pretrial hearing is Jan 26th at 1:30 div 5. They have taken our daughter on allegations . oh fyi, the meds they have my kid on are not fda regulated for children under 12 and are only used for adhd kids and kids with touretts . she is not diagnosed with either. I am forced to comply with the druging of my kid and when I do get her back this is not a drug that i can abruptly take her off of cause she could die, I have to wean her off of them under a doctors care. Please respond and let me know if you can be there. It is our hope to fill this courtroom with people outraged by the power the state has to take someones most beloved gift when there has never been any form of abuse or neglect. PLEASE , PLEASE HELP US. We can be reached on here for now and I will post our phone number later. We love you all,

David and Lori

 

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